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semach.the.monkey posted:

Ok, I know this isn't strictly speaking a C5 topic, so I'll understand if this post is deleted. I think it's in the most appropriate section of this forum.

The C5 wasn't Clive Sinclairs only brilliant vision of the future though. Back in 1988, he envisioned we would all be carrying mobile computers, about the size of a pad of paper around, with a 10" screen*, full physical qwerty keyboard, solid state expandable memory, with built in apps, the ability to connect to other machines and devices, and run from batteries that would last 20 hours use or 120 days standby.

Well, 25 years on, the spec of the Z88 still holds up quite well. And, in many ways, is superior to what we tend to think of as cutting edge today.

Although I only got my first Z88 a year or so ago, I love it, and, for some things (such as writing letters), I prefer it over my desktop PC or tablet. It's just a great bit of kit. I have, however, upgraded the memory to 512k (plus some plug in memory cartridges), and made up a special USB lead that will allow me to 'print' to my PC, or use it as a USB keyboard for my tablet, so it has more functionality than was originally planned for.

(For reference, I also have a ZX81, most models of Spectrum and a QL - but sadly, I can't quite find any realistic uses for these in this modern world).

I know I'm not the only person to still use a Z88, but I wonder how many C5 owners also dabble with Sir Clives other products.

STM

* remember, screen sizes are measured diagonally!
posted on: 04/08/2013 22:37:50

Dan posted:

Hi STM,

Sure feel free to post other Sinclair related gadget posts here.

Yeah I've had various Sinclair computers over the years, though never the Z88 I'm afraid to say

From your description it does sound rather familiar to a lot of modern devices.

I still have a Grey Spectrum +2 for games as the various emulators are just not quite as good as a original machine.  I know its an Amstrad machine but the keyboard is superior to Sir Clives 128K keyboard

The Z88 I'll probably keep an eye out and see if a cheap one pops up

posted on: 05/08/2013 07:58:22

semach.the.monkey posted:

Growing up with the flat ZX81 keyboard and the rubber keyed Spectrum, the 128k Spectrum keyboard was a luxury!

[Insert Python sketch here: "ZX81? You were lucky!"]

I've actually got a keyboard rescued from a dead +2 that should make part of a nice little Arduino project one day. One day...

And, yes, cheap Z88s do crop up here and there. It's worth keeping your eye open. Of course, some people drastically overinflate the price because it's 'vintage', much like the cost of some C5s I guess. But there's still bargains to be had.

STM
posted on: 05/08/2013 12:10:48

Dan posted:

[quote=semach.the.monkey;863]Growing up with the flat ZX81 keyboard and the rubber keyed Spectrum, the 128k Spectrum keyboard was a luxury![/quote]

Aye, my first computer was the 128k with that wonderful keyboard.  It seemed great at the time. I don't know how anybody survived with a ZX81 keyboard

C5's take up most of my time but I'm going to start looking at computers again soon.

I saw this custom 128K/+2/+2A on ebay recently and may have a go at making my own, it looks like all he's done is saw the tape drive off it

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171079291873

I'm looking at a Z88 on ebay now:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3984.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.Xz88&_nkw=z88&_sacat=0&_from=R40

That seems a little expensive though compared to the value of sold ones. I may take a gamble on this one:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CAMBRIDGE-Z88-MAY-WORK-BUT-NO-WAY-OF-POWERING-IT-HENCE-SOLD-AS-SPARES-/221263320445?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item338452557d
posted on: 05/08/2013 20:46:28

dave posted:

I had an amiga 600 and atari when I was about 14 I think long time ago lol
posted on: 05/08/2013 20:52:57

semach.the.monkey posted:


Aye, my first computer was the 128k with that wonderful keyboard. It seemed great at the time. I don't know how anybody survived with a ZX81 keyboard[img=/sinclair-c5-forum/Images/Emoticons/msp_biggrin.gif][/img]


Things come around full circle. Typing on a tablet isn't that different from typing on a ZX81!


I saw this custom 128K/+2/+2A on ebay recently and may have a go at making my own, it looks like all he's done is saw the tape drive off it

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171079291873


That is AWESOME! And, with hindsight, so obvious. Hmmm... maybe I'll have a crack at one too...


That seems a little expensive though compared to the value of sold ones. I may take a gamble on this one:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CAMBRIDGE-Z88-MAY-WORK-BUT-NO-WAY-OF-POWERING-IT-HENCE-SOLD-AS-SPARES-/221263320445?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item338452557d



Yeah, it's worth a punt. My bid isn't too high ;-)

STM
posted on: 05/08/2013 21:57:49

Dan posted:

[quote=semach.the.monkey;874]Yeah, it's worth a punt. My bid isn't too high ;-)[/quote]

Ahh you're bidding on it I'll probably have a go at getting it but don't want to be bidding you up
posted on: 06/08/2013 18:26:30

semach.the.monkey posted:

[quote=Dan;876][quote=semach.the.monkey;874]Yeah, it's worth a punt. My bid isn't too high ;-)[/quote]

Ahh you're bidding on it I'll probably have a go at getting it but don't want to be bidding you up[/quote] Go ahead and bid... I'm out of the running already :) STM
posted on: 06/08/2013 18:43:46

Dan posted:

Nice one, thanks I managed to win it

Hopefully I'll have it for the weekend and see if I can get it to work.  They do look nice though
posted on: 07/08/2013 16:54:42

semach.the.monkey posted:

[quote=Dan;883]Nice one, thanks I managed to win it

Hopefully I'll have it for the weekend and see if I can get it to work.  They do look nice though[/quote] Good work! They're a little bit quirky, but not too complicated. The magic thing that you'll need to know if you've not used one before is to turn it on or off, use both shift keys. Other than that, it's reasonably straight forward. If you get stuck, give me a shout. (or check out my Z88 blog posts [url=http://www.sowen.com/tag/z88/]http://www.sowen.com/tag/z88/[/url] ) STM
posted on: 07/08/2013 17:03:07

dave posted:

Oh on its not getting like the mg club is it ?
posted on: 07/08/2013 17:42:24

semach.the.monkey posted:

I hope not... I am a Triumph man through and through :)

STM
posted on: 07/08/2013 17:46:51

Dan posted:

[quote=dave;885]Oh on its not getting like the mg club is it ? [/quote]

Nah don't worry Dave it's in the "Other" section and it's sinclair related.
posted on: 07/08/2013 18:16:22

dave posted:

That's ok then lol thought id av to post some pics of my bus
posted on: 07/08/2013 19:16:41

Dan posted:

[quote=semach.the.monkey;884]
Good work! They're a little bit quirky, but not too complicated. The magic thing that you'll need to know if you've not used one before is to turn it on or off, use both shift keys.

Other than that, it's reasonably straight forward. If you get stuck, give me a shout. (or check out my Z88 blog posts http://www.sowen.com/tag/z88/ )
STM[/quote]

Cheers for that mate I would have spent all day trying to work out how to turn if one if you hadn't mentioned Your blog posts look great, I'll bookmark them for when I get stuck later on

[quote]That's ok then lol thought id av to post some pics of my bus[/quote]

Feel free to create a new page and stick piccies of your volvo on it
posted on: 07/08/2013 20:10:01

dave posted:

But then your going the same way as the other c5 site ? Lol but volvos are better. And check the prices for c70 on ebay there's a black 1 for 800 hard top 125000 miles no good for c5 moving but good fun an better than mg anyday of the week
posted on: 07/08/2013 20:26:20